Click Here to Return to Index<\/a><\/p>\n Here Begins The Discussion Log AGplusone has entered the room.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Ha! Remembered the name this time.<\/p>\n AGplusone: afk and brb<\/p>\n AGplusone: b<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yawn.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yawn, yawn, and yawn.<\/p>\n AGplusone: And also yawn!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yawn!<\/p>\n AGplusone: And then of course, there’s yawn!<\/p>\n AGplusone: :-):-(:-P;-)=-O:-*8-)>:o:-D:-$:-!<\/p>\n AGplusone: :-[O:-):-\\:'(:-X<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi there<\/p>\n AGplusone: The Heinlein Society Website<\/p>\n AGplusone: Hi, Simon. How’s it going?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: OK. and you?<\/p>\n AGplusone: I’m sitting here . . . looking around . . . I think Dave is off outside. I’m fine.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Dave the elder? Off on the Lanai, or elsewhere?<\/p>\n AGplusone: How’d you get triple x ?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yes. He sometimes takes his wife shopping on Saturday, just logs.<\/p>\n AGplusone: SimonMycroftxxx = Simon Jester?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: XXX … from the book; whenever Mannie (et al) wanted a secure connection.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Oh yeah.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Mychelle is available as well, I suppose.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: transvestism … that’s a very big word..<\/p>\n AGplusone: Wyoh was sure Mike was a girl.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx:MychelleYY<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: OK, so I’m a fake \ud83d\ude09 …<\/p>\n AGplusone: \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n AGplusone: I keep Ag+1 rather than go to another name because that’s the one I started with. When AOL insisted its “Hosts” use other names I used “Zim” …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Been a while since Jane Davitt posted to afh … heard anything?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Nothing from her at all. Except she’s evidently happy being a Buffy fan.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Writing Buffy stories over there I’ve heard.<\/p>\n AGplusone: alf.fan.buffy or something<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: I oughter start p\/e\/s\/t\/e\/r\/i\/n\/g posting to a buffy group or two…<\/p>\n AGplusone: Naw. I’d be unable to resist turning out porn stories if I went there …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: LOL<\/p>\n AGplusone: so I stay far away!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Sarah Michelle is a pretty girl. Not bad for what, 30+ now?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: All those penetrating fangs, Stakes plunging into soft flesh…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx:cold water<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: BBBRRRRR!!!!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Right. Read an article once saying that the reason gurls loved Buffy is it was a non-threatening substitute for sexuality.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: And Boiz?<\/p>\n AGplusone: I never quite keep up on Boiz.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Never was one.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: ?!?<\/p>\n AGplusone: They didn’t have them in the 50s, doncha know.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Aaahhh…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Mind you, isn’t Ms. Trachtenberg circa 16 yrs old?)<\/p>\n AGplusone: Now James Madison Marlowe … a 50s boy? [not sure who Trachtenberg is — a Buffy actress?]<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (re: SMG’s age…)<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Michelle Trahctenberg … the actress who plays Dawn (Buffy’s sister)<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: who’s JMM?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Oh, yeah. Buffy’s ultimate replacement.<\/p>\n AGplusone: JMM is the lead juvenile in Red Planet that we are discussing today<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: D’oh! I re-read it the other day, too…<\/p>\n AGplusone: First juvenile where RAH started up playing with names again.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Marquis Howe?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: BTW, who was the Tish in the dedication?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Marquis – Marcus? Howe?<\/p>\n Randyjj55 has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi, Randy<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Aternoon\/Evening, gentlemen<\/p>\n AGplusone: Hi, Randy. Simon, have you met ?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Not sure, depending upon the person behind the nick…<\/p>\n AGplusone: I think Dave is shopping with the spousal overlord unit<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Thank goodness we got all that stuff done some time ago, here.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: I post as “Simon Jester”, Randy.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Okay, I do recognize that nickname on AFH<\/p>\n AGplusone: Rather hard to justify naming a kid “Marquis” unless you think you’re doing him a favor.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Marquis Howe is the full name of the new Headmaster.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: …unless you’re an author…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Yep, remember that bit…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, we plebians just don’t have the proper perspective, no doubt.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Unless you make all your characters call him “Markie” . . . as the Resident Agent does.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Or worse, “Stinky” as the boys do.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: “Marcus” means “warlike” – derived from Mars…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Not so sure about Marquis, though.<\/p>\n KultsiKN has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Possibly DeSade-related?<\/p>\n AGplusone: That is true. Heinlein playing again with games … Yo, Kultsi …<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Hi phrozen phin! \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Hello, folks!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi, Kultsi!<\/p>\n AGplusone: er, “names” …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: or even name-games…<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Dividing my attention between you and pixel…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Teresa?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: What’s she doing to you?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, there are many ways one can be warlike – one can also war against manners and culture, as well as countries.<\/p>\n AGplusone: or reindeer games (I had to watch one of the Xmas cartoons on the tube last night … the Burl Ives one. How come I don’t remember MONSTERS in the song?)<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Kultsi, tell pixelmeow to drop on in for a while.<\/p>\n pixelmeow has entered the room.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: hey!!!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Howe wants to make it a military school. Immediately institutes “junk on the bunk” diagrams, etc. Hi, Pix<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: I had wondered whether this was another round in RAH’s ongoing campaign against his editor…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Speak of the … er …. angel!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi Pix!<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Hi Everybody. I’m back.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: ROFL!!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Good ol’ Warlike Marquis (Marcus) (Mars) Howe.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi Dave.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Hi Dave W!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Hi, Dave. Small but cerce today, so far.<\/p>\n AGplusone: cherce?<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Dinner was spoiled. so we had to go get something.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: cherce? what’s that?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Incidentally, Kultsi, I came across the name “Kullervo” in a book on Northern Mythology a little while back.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Is Kullervo a common name in Finland?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Old movies, Pix.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Ah.<\/p>\n AGplusone: “choice” meaning good<\/p>\n KultsiKN: It’s not really common, but there are some of us.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I’m trying to recall the plot of the book, could I have a reminder?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: But …. I thought there could be only one?????<\/p>\n AGplusone: Katherine Hepburn’s buddy used to pronounce it that way … I’m blanking on his name.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Spencer Tracy?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: that’s him.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Jim, Frank and Willis (the bouncer) go to college…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: AHA!!!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Got it.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Boy lives on Mars. Has pet named Willis, like R2D2 but flesh and blood, goes to school.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Thanks!!!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Big bad school master.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Long distant skating.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Ver’ ver’ bad….<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Elders.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: so what are we talking about now?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Named Marquis Howe … called “Markie” by the bad guys and “Stinky” by the students.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Will Jackie be joining us? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n AGplusone: Marquis Howe and Heinlein’s name-games again.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Dogs and cats, mating in the streets ….. Oh, wait! That’s another thing….<\/p>\n pixelmeow: ROFL!!!<\/p>\n AGplusone: I hope so … haven’t seen her.<\/p>\n AGplusone: wb, DtheE<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: wb!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: got problems, DE???<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: I got kicked out of the room for some reason. Had to restart AIM<\/p>\n pixelmeow: damn, that’s a bright green!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: hurts my eyes…<\/p>\n AGplusone: Green?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: IE?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: any way to change that? DtE’s name is that bright cyan color.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Opera?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: or wot?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: uh, I’m on aim on winxp pro…<\/p>\n AGplusone: All you guys are bright blue. I’m red.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: many thanks to Steve and Jim…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, not at the moment, but I was. I’m pretty much a live and let live sort. Been hanging around many years, and haven’t caused too much trouble yet.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: I’m using Win98<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I’m red, DtY is sorta khaki colored, Simon is pink<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: and no bright green…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Randy is gray<\/p>\n pixelmeow: well, maybe it’s that outdated os…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: *run*<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Colors are assigned by AIM I think, and your own will always be in red, but the others appear to be at random<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Win98? Is that the new successor to winXP? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: DtE is bright cyan.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Everyone’s typing in black, except you, Pix. You’re bright blue.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: oughtter be a dead duck…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Yes, my typing is blue, so I can see it well.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Actually, it depends on how you have your AIM set up.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Simon is yellow to me. pixel is brown randy is light grey and AG is bright blue-green<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Now don’t you guys make me start ruining keyboards!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Like this?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Lemme look.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Everyone except DtE is fairly dark<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Yes!<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I’m light grey? I always fancied myself as an autumn….<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: That’s the nice things about the archives. It loses all these colors.<\/p>\n AGplusone: How’s your son doing at Knox?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I see nowhere to change the color of the screen names.<\/p>\n AGplusone: There is nowhere.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Graduates next Thursday. We’re heading out Wednesday to go pick him up and bring him home for leave.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: I don’t think that you can.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Congrats!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Figures…<\/p>\n AGplusone: On some versions you get a red and blue, others assign colors arbitrarily.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: The name colors are taken from a list, I think.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: did my color change from the original to when I came back in?<\/p>\n AGplusone: AOL ‘snazziness’ which is a PITA.<\/p>\n AGplusone: My version just makes everyone except me Blue.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Yes, the color of your name did.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: It was blue like my writing.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Blue = good guys; while I’m Red = Enemy.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: hey, I’m red…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Uh oh, i’m red…<\/p>\n KultsiKN: No, Silver, you’re green.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Nice shade.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Been a while since anyone said that to DtY!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Quack.<\/p>\n AGplusone: So back to Marquis Howe … [the beautiful color of dead presidents] … how would Howe ever be a marquis except by accident of birth.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: How would any marquis?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Don’t be embarrassed, Pix….<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Or even, Howe would any marquis?<\/p>\n AGplusone: As Doc MacRae said, the “non-profit” running Mars runs on “you kiss me,” and we graft together.<\/p>\n AGplusone: After all we all put in a full days work for the company, that leaves 18 hours a day for us!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Mars rotation? 24 earth hours or close enough?<\/p>\n KultsiKN: From NOTB — fairly close?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Could google for it…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: sorry, girls running around.<\/p>\n AGplusone: So at least we’re down to the 6 hour day (another great advance for mankind) … whatever happened to the eight hour day.<\/p>\n AGplusone: I liked the “girls are dyeing their hair in stripes” passage.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: According to http:\/\/www.windows.ucar.edu\/tour\/link=\/kids_space\/period.html,<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: it takes 24.6229 hours<\/p>\n pixelmeow: back in a few…<\/p>\n pixelmeow has left the room.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Close enough.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: cya<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: pix<\/p>\n AGplusone: I’ve been looking for an old illustration showing the “canals” …<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: They were in the front cover of the original edition that I read way back then, but haven’t seen them since<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: No illustrations in my Pan paperback.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Not even wegrokit?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Except the cover – looks like colonials dusting a waterseeker) You have just entered room “Heinlein Readers Group chat.”<\/p>\n KultsiKN: WB, DWS<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: There are some v. simple drawings at http:\/\/www.science-frontiers.com\/sf057\/sf057a05.htm<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Weird things are going on<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: wb!<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Uhhh.. light yellow this time!<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Interesting Simon has changed color to a light grey.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: And I am showing up as yellow to you?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Yup<\/p>\n Randyjj55: There is a picture of Lowell’s Drawings of the canals at http:\/\/ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov\/tharsis\/canals.html<\/p>\n AGplusone: I recognize some of the names. That Lowell map is helpful, and I have a hunch that, with some of the canals named, that was what I dimly recall from the original flys of the hardbound.<\/p>\n AGplusone: That’s even better.<\/p>\n AGplusone: When the two boys travel, I sort of want to follow along on the Map.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Yes, that’s the fun thing about a “fictional” or author’s universe – seeing the pictures in your mind and converting\/mapping them to the “real” world.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Are you getting hit with weather out there David? Wx map looks like CA is taking some.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: I don’t recognize any of the names on the map, but then it’s very hard to read.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Hasn’t gotten down here yet, but up in San Francisco this week, Bill tells me everyone was looking like a drowned rat.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Bill P?<\/p>\n AGplusone: It’s just overcast. We’re supposed to get whatever we get this weekend, tho. Yes, Bill P<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Yes, those mars geographers are a short sighted lot…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx:Areographers?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n AGplusone: Areograhy<\/p>\n AGplusone: p<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Anyone else intending to make it?<\/p>\n AGplusone: We had some comment that the plot in Red Planet is rather simple minded Thursday, anyone care to comment on that.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Anyone ever consider the last question of the book? What becomes of Willis?<\/p>\n pixelmeow has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (here?)<\/p>\n pixelmeow: back.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Not lately, randy<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Don’t know, Simon. ‘spect so<\/p>\n KultsiKN has left the room.<\/p>\n AGplusone: had a couple ask directions, etc.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Somehow I got the impression that having a bouncer for a pet was rather rare. So, would Willis be a Valentine in reverse?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Also — what relation are the Martians in RP to those in SiaSL?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Synchronicity?)<\/p>\n AGplusone: I think they meld in nicely …<\/p>\n Randyjj55: The Police?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: De do do do, de da da da…<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: On the surface, they appear to be the same, nymphs, martians, old ones, other world etc<\/p>\n AGplusone: But, you know, we never really ‘see” Martians in SiaSL. Just Michael’s perceptions of them …<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Maybe just a slight variation between the two worlds – like world without a “J”.<\/p>\n KultsiKN has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: But the description of the Martian adults in RP does not match with SiaSL…<\/p>\n AGplusone: like the view that Jim gets from Willis’ memory, likely distorted.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: DUH!<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: True, but Heinlein relied a lot on us filling in the gaps and it seems natural to assume that they are the same<\/p>\n AGplusone: What description?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: get booted?<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Yup.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Can’t remember precise words…<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: or similar<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: In RP, adults are described as roughly manlike, tall, angular…<\/p>\n AGplusone: fer example: where exactly in SiaSL are they really described? We get recollections of them.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I thought there was a brief description of one “sailing” into the passage where the Martian met up with the Xenophobe.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: In SiaSL, are described as sort of Terrestrial (Arial?) centipedes crossed with busses…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: There are descriptions of the Martian version of “Love” compared with Earth.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Tripod legs, tripod hands, really tall … except when they withdraw . . . then they look like a ball with the hand flaps coverig everything except the backbone.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (in SiaSL)<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I have to finish getting my Heinlein all crossreferenced and linked together in text files….<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: That was going to be my retirement project, (If I am ever able to retire) \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n AGplusone: Gekko, for exampl, is nine feet tall I think.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: This is why we need a searchable CD or set of files. I’m about half done with my “package”.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Yep. that’s it exactly.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Has three eyes … has to move Jim about so all three eyes can see him. Liquid eyes.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2 has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi E!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: hey, E!!!<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Hi, E!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Hi, E! I think we’ll be putting something like that together soon Randy.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2:Morning!<\/p>\n AGplusone: for research if nothing else.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Notice that on page 34 there is also a description of a “disappearance” apparently caused by the martian, same as described in SiaSL.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: No, it’s Evening<\/p>\n AGplusone: Pretty nearly same.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (To E!) COFFEE.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: No, it’s Very Early Morning.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Medical officer …<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Lots o coffee<\/p>\n pixelmeow: here you go. Watch out, it’s hot…<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: tanks!<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I guess it’s all a matter of perspective …. time is what it is when you look out the window…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Na zdravoye. (sp?)<\/p>\n AGplusone: But there was nothing about the colonists offending the Martians so much they “withdrew” ….<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Tanks? That’s a lot of coffee….<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: just woke up, need lots<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Coming off shift or going on?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: COFFEE COFFEE COFFEE COFFEE COFFEE<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Going on soon<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Spam Spam Spam Spam ……….<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Randy, I *told* you about the keyboards!@!!!!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I’ll make *you* clean them!!!<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Finland, Finland,Finland…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Who let those Vikings in?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Sorry! I’ll up the board to 1000 times ……<\/p>\n pixelmeow: \ud83d\ude1b all of you.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I will not annoy the cat ….<\/p>\n AGplusone: I always wanted a “singing sword” … speaking of which, there’s one in Operation Luna.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: yeah?<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: O:-)<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yeah. Forged by a Viking dwarf blacksmith.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Almost looks like a little nurse’s cap E. Of course if I used that smiley, it would indicate a hole in my head.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Looks like Pixel is the proud owner of the “Lord Darcy.”<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Hard to imagine a Dwarf Viking…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Kind of like Jumbo Shrimp….<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Yeah!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: KEYBOARD!<\/p>\n AGplusone: I always wanted to know whether the ‘dwarfs’ were the original inhabitants … or captured Finns.<\/p>\n Copycat669 has entered the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: mumbleSandi Toksvigmumble<\/p>\n Copycat669: hi all! I’m back!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: and now I have grape juice in my nose…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: thanks, E!!!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Hi<\/p>\n pixelmeow: !<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, at least it won’t leave a stain ….<\/p>\n AGplusone: yo, CC<\/p>\n pixelmeow: but it *hurts*…<\/p>\n Copycat669: Gee, Pix, lemme guess who your favorite character is? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n AGplusone: Concord grape juice does<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Hia, CC!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: no idea!<\/p>\n Copycat669: hi all!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Once again I don’t know everyone..<\/p>\n AGplusone: I always figured Pix would be attracted to Petronius Arbiter<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I LOVE HIM!!!<\/p>\n AGplusone: but then I forget Pixel was a Tom<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Looks like we’re about to be able to have all the people we need for a musical – Cats!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I’m the white cat.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: The one in the front. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: CC?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Hiya)<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Nah, you’re blond \ud83d\ude1b<\/p>\n pixelmeow: SO!!!<\/p>\n Copycat669: So…what are we chatting about?<\/p>\n AGplusone: blonde<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Red Planet.<\/p>\n Copycat669: Ah. Ok. More of last night’s chatting..<\/p>\n Randyjj55: But, how can a blonde be a Red-head planet?<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: it turned goofy as soon as I got here.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Blonde, with the French fem ending.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: well, what’d you expect???<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Bread and Circuses<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: \ud83d\ude00<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx:”I DIDN’T SAY SHE WAS CHEATING ON ME WITH DONALD…”<\/p>\n pixelmeow: You are gonna *get* it.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Too early for MP, can’t think fast enough<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Re E!)<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: LOL…got it….finally<\/p>\n Randyjj55: There’s always hope!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: So far, we have the two davids, E, kultsi, and that’s all I *know*.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Is that Randy Jost?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Yes<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: + me!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: and Simon “Jester”?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: or who?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Yup. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n pixelmeow: cool.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: So who is the copycat???<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n AGplusone: And CC … must introduce yourself, I suppose.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I like knowing to whom I’m typing…<\/p>\n AGplusone: Tam from Yahoo Heinlein groups?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: so what did we decide about the Martians?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Are they all related?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Second cousins?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Possibly via alternate universes?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Something. It all seemed the same to *me*…<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Related, I think so, the same, Well, maybe. As I said he certainly used my previous reading of RP to fill in the gaps with when I read SIASL<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Gifford says they are the same Martians in SIASL.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Quite possibly, but hard to tell due to a lack of detailed descriptions.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: yeah. KMurphy165 has entered the room.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Hi@ KMurphy165: greetings, all<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yo, KMurphy.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Howdy.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Hi! KMurphy165: Long time no see um!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Hello<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I don’t know your moniker… KMurphy165: What are we talking about today?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Red Planet<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Does this book seem to be an amalgamation of some of the elements of Space Cadet, MiaHM, SiaSL and Double Star?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Umm… Yes and no?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: There’s a definitive answer.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Space cadet… young men progressing to maturity.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: We see Martians in SiaSL, Double Star and Between Planets.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (also BP)<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (per RP)<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: But they are all different in those three books or<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Actually, in Space Cadet, I was thinking about the episode on Venus, in misunderstanding of another culture by one character, with understanding growing in the other characters.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: MiaHM… rights for self determination?<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: rebellion against overbearing authority<\/p>\n Copycat669: I imagined them as the SIASL martians.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: or at least so it seemed to me. In BP, they had pseudo-wings?, they were like tree trunks in DS and like what we have discussed in RP<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I agree with E.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I saw much of it as just unreasonable authority of Howie<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: That too.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: also the boys growing up…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: taking on responsibility…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: But what if the authority had been reasonable throughout?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: we wouldn’t have had a story?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Would they have had the right to self-determination?<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: RAH teaching when authority should be questioned<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (I think so.)<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I think it took the push of the authority figure.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Paternal Earth Authority over pubescent colonial life<\/p>\n AGplusone: Always thought all the ‘authorities’ and ‘companies’ and whatevers ‘federations’ were pretty childish, actually.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: I saw my parents that way while I was growing up, too!<\/p>\n Randyjj55: One should always be willing to question. That’s how you learn and grow, but Authority doesn’t like that. Often, (not always) because the only answer it has is “Because”.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Howe for example acts like a petulant child. so does the Wart Hobart in MiaHM<\/p>\n AGplusone: Alvarez seems like a confused child most of the time<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Alvarez, ya.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Even the IBI “lieutenant” seems ‘childish’ in ways<\/p>\n AGplusone: in Between Planets which we read next. He’s distracted easily.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: I thought Mort the Wart acted more like a negligent parent.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: that’s because they are ‘gimme’ people and don’t want to have to work for it<\/p>\n AGplusone: Marquis by birth, as we did discuss?<\/p>\n AGplusone: put in a full day … then eighteen hours for ourselves.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Not mentioned in the book?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Red Planet?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Birth or decree, does it matter if it is not earned or recognized by others as being “right”?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Surely like calling your kid “Duke” or “Earl”?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: or Duke of Earl<\/p>\n AGplusone: Howe is the nephew of the Chairman of the Board of the “Company”<\/p>\n AGplusone: sounds like born to the purple to me<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Dook dook dook dook of Earl…<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: yes<\/p>\n Copycat669: i got the joke…<\/p>\n Copycat669: \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: they all have the same thing in common “When I say jump…”<\/p>\n AGplusone: Kept thinking about Virginia colony when I read Red Planet. the Howe’s and the Pottles (Pot Holes)<\/p>\n AGplusone: look around for the ‘slaves’ to order around all the time<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Pot Holes? Virginia colony?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Uh?<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Definitely<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Having the title is not the problem, nor is nepotism – The problem occurs when the person in the position of authority clearly shows thy are not fit to hold it, yet, there they are.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: It happens all the time<\/p>\n AGplusone: Well, what did they send to the colonies. Remittance men?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Some thrived. Most probably left early or starved.<\/p>\n AGplusone: How many did India chew up?<\/p>\n AGplusone: and spit out<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Trying to think of a Roanoke pun)<\/p>\n AGplusone: not everyone came home with a bag of loot<\/p>\n AGplusone: When we had the Philippines, probably ditto …<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: many of them were killed outright as idiots often are<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Put down the pun and no one gets hurt …..<\/p>\n AGplusone: lots of get rich quick schemers<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Enough of the Croatoan theology<\/p>\n AGplusone: all those guys in “imports” on the “Pacific Rim”<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Do we take ten?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Yes, theology can often be hard to swallow – it gets stuck in your croat …<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I’m just lurking…<\/p>\n AGplusone: I think RAH used the last name Pottle with malice aforethought for that couple. “come dear!” zaaap! Now would be a good time. Until 45 past the hour?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Colonel, you have the Conn.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Aye<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: That’s why you have the towel on your head, Pix!<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Arghhh<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Ahem. I like paper bags, thanks.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Goody! Gonna do a fillup on me single malt!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: LOL!<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I’ve always wanted a small northeastern state,<\/p>\n AGplusone: Speaking of the New Orleans Saints …<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Connecticut will do fine.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: what about the Saints?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Good coast line. Fine sheltered harbors. I hear Teach is operating well out of that area.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: They do go marchin’ in!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: and where did *that* topic come from…<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: LOL<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Pirates!!!!<\/p>\n AGplusone: paper bags … back in the ‘ain’ts’ days<\/p>\n AGplusone: Well, Randy does have the Conn.<\/p>\n AGplusone: I’m below splicing the mainbrace in my cabin.<\/p>\n pixelmeow:<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2:<\/p>\n AGplusone: afk on a main brace splice run<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: don’t worry Pix, I’m getting it….finally<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Do that too often and you’ll be looking lost in broad daylight!)<\/p>\n pixelmeow: then that explains why I be losing it…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I’ll have to go back to grading soon, but will hang around until I can pawn off Conn and Park Place, too.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I do that a lot anyway…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: eh?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Of all the things I’ve lost, I miss my mind the most.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: does anyone in here remember that I am NATURALLY blonde?????<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Naturally!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Yeah I miss your mind, too!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Think ur the only 1? (giggle)<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (ahem)<\/p>\n pixelmeow: indeed.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I’m just not functioning tonight…<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Thusrday night the cat stole my lighter, she still hasn’t returned it…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, if you see it roamin’ around, shove it in a box and FedEx it back home where it belongs. It’s not fit to be seen in public.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: I don’t know about the ‘natural blondes’, but the checking is fun…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: That’s getting to be quite a problem – cats sneaking out for a smoke.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: E, I’m opening a new box of keyboards, we’re gonna need ’em<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: most definitely<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Hope you’ve got a dozen.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I hear Staples is having a sale.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: trucks down the road full of them, yes, I do.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: We’ve been getting them in by the pallet lately<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Got to,the way you people ruin them…<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: and it’s not Monday morning yet, that’s my bad day for keyboards<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Speak only for yaself, tender kitten.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I don’t believe “I’ve” been ejecting fluids out of my facial orifices onto your keyboard. How can you say it’s our fault.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: cause you made me do it!!!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: cuase you say punny things<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Phunny?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: that too…<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: punny and funny KMurphy165: Duty calls, gots to go. Bye<\/p>\n AGplusone: “What are we doing off the coast of Conneticuit, Mr. Christain?” KMurphy165 has left the room.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Sinking fast in the perfect storm if confusion.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Bye… 2fast4me…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: k<\/p>\n pixelmeow: later!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: spying on cats smoking with stolen lighters<\/p>\n AGplusone: bye<\/p>\n Randyjj55: You’d think if those cats could get there own cigarettes, they’d buy there own lighters.<\/p>\n AGplusone: by rights sir you should put me in a long boat now … so I can navigate to Australia …<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: I’m pretty sure she has nicked some smokes too!<\/p>\n AGplusone: but then you’d have to go to Pitcairn Island<\/p>\n Randyjj55: But, by lefts, we’ll keep you in charge. I relinquish the helm, Mr. Silver.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: what’s left at Pitcairn these days?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Darn! Hoisted again.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: On your own petard.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Not much I hear. About as bad as Tierra de Fuqua<\/p>\n AGplusone: No, on the flag hoist<\/p>\n AGplusone: instead of the Jolly Roger<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: 15 minutes…<\/p>\n AGplusone: Do you all know how Willis came to be?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: No, how?<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: do you mean how Jim found him?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, when the mommy martian and the daddy martian love each other very much ….<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: LOL<\/p>\n Copycat669: hehehehehe<\/p>\n AGplusone: Vague story from various sources: Robert had one of those round top wire tape recorders. Supposedly left it on one day by accident.<\/p>\n Copycat669: how exactly do mommy martians and daddy martians love each other?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: ewwww<\/p>\n AGplusone: Six ways from the middle …<\/p>\n pixelmeow: grooooossss<\/p>\n KultsiKN: LOL<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: and he got a great story out of it<\/p>\n AGplusone: Found himself with a recording of some couple hours of social conversation … gossip no doubt, etc.<\/p>\n AGplusone: And there you have it: Willis was born!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: just like you don’t say anything you don’t want repeated around toddlers<\/p>\n Copycat669: and that’s where the idea came from ? Oh I SEE!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Cool!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: 10<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, it’s clear from the story that Willis is more than just a fuzzy parrot. His abilities to get around and adapt to the situation imply that he is operating on more than instinct. More like a child, which is what he is.<\/p>\n AGplusone: If you ever saw one of those recorders on their little stand, you might think it looks a little like R2D2, early model.<\/p>\n AGplusone: On stalks of course.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Wire recorders? I fixed one for a friend.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: R2D2 in stilletoes? (Boggle)<\/p>\n Randyjj55: And why does he want to listen to a wire singing?<\/p>\n AGplusone: These were about the size of hemispherical basketballs<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: never seen one!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Kind of lumpy looking. Not exact hemis, but close.<\/p>\n AGplusone: About 1959 I worked in an office where we had about 100 typists just clattering away with them.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: ah, ’59, I don’t remember it well<\/p>\n AGplusone: That was back when the typewriters were made of stone.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: LOL<\/p>\n Randyjj55: And liquid paper was a hammer?<\/p>\n AGplusone: And a cold chisel<\/p>\n KultsiKN: So cold it froze your fingers<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: BTW: CC – Colin Campbell?<\/p>\n pixelmeow: ya think?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: CC? Wassay?<\/p>\n AGplusone: When this was written basketballs still had leather stitching in the center, like footballs. Interesting bounces if you dribbled it on the wrong side.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: hmmm<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: 5<\/p>\n pixelmeow: 5 what?<\/p>\n AGplusone: John Wooden was playing basketball, not the kindly elderly gentleman they trot out to give awards.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: minutes to lift off<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Looks like an E countdown.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: ah. \ud83d\ude41<\/p>\n pixelmeow: and I’m sitting here falling asleep…<\/p>\n AGplusone: Maybe she’s getting ready like Kramdon to send us to the Moon.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: the time when my butt leaves the chair and I run around like a madwoman then go to work<\/p>\n KultsiKN: With Dave telling a yarn? Falling asleep?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Dave is falling asleep<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: It’s peaceful on the lanai<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Nope. Pixel.<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: I have to go guys and gals…have fun!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: CYA!<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Have a good shift\/<\/p>\n AGplusone: bye E<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2: Good Night!<\/p>\n TreetopAngelRN2 has left the room.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: E! That was 5 secs, not 5 mins! Bye , E!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Ever notice one thing about the juvenile revolution stories?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Just one?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Not juvenile?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Always a deus ex machina at the end … which makes MiaHM a juvenile too.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: At the end?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I guess that technically, MiaHM would be a machina ex machina<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Surely the Deus ex’ed the machina fairly early on?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Or do you mean Mike’s exit?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Had occasion to read that short story … about revolution: the one with the Barkley Free Company or whatever it was called ….<\/p>\n Randyjj55: And it’s a good thing that the computer was not named Jack.<\/p>\n AGplusone: but the revolution is won by DEM … whether it exists or not earlier.<\/p>\n AGplusone: won quick<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Otherwise, we’d have a Jack ex machina<\/p>\n AGplusone: The “Stone Pillow” precursor … “the Poles had to wait 300 years” is one quote from it.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Not sure I’d agree…<\/p>\n AGplusone: “Solution Unsatisfactory” is that the one? I’m trying to recall.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: The “war” is over relatively quickly…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: but there’s a lot of preparation.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Without Mike, bye and bye we all get hungry.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: True.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Still –<\/p>\n AGplusone: Without Geeko, same difference<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: without little boy and fat boy, a lot of allied troops would have died in Japan.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Without Isaac Newton, etc., Between Planets goes on and on in the swamps forever<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Suppose end of WWII could be DEM.)<\/p>\n AGplusone: No outside help for the Poles, no Deus Ex Machina either. 300 years until their brief country established in 1920<\/p>\n KultsiKN: If you spell out the ‘D’ as ‘Devil’<\/p>\n AGplusone: could be<\/p>\n Copycat669 has left the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Bye CC (whoever you were….)<\/p>\n AGplusone: So why does RAH soft peddle revolution for juveniles?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Dagleish, again?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Does he?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I’m not sure he does. People get killed, it’s usually presented as a touch and go situation.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yeah, lasting less the elder Bush’s War.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: But real life is often like that – often it’s hard to see what “trigger event” determines success or failure.<\/p>\n AGplusone: because Gekko comes in and swings that really loooong club didn’t know one know about<\/p>\n Randyjj55: But the hints were there.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yes, they were.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: my daughter has two friends in her room, playing…<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Yep! Of course, the only thing is to go see the chaplain. Of course, if one IS the chaplain, then one has a problem.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: it’s loude on that side of the apt.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: loude???<\/p>\n pixelmeow: loud, that is.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Much giggling and loud voices…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Olde Englyshe, noe dowtte…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: they’re playing dress up, and beauty queen, and all that…<\/p>\n AGplusone: And chaplains usually don’t solve personal problems involving either randiness, Your RandyNess, or cats, dogs in the street.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Are we early to “the chat”?<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Simon, there are 16,483 Kullervos in Finland<\/p>\n pixelmeow: and are just shooting the bull???<\/p>\n pixelmeow: That’s a lotta Kultsis…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: [Applause]<\/p>\n AGplusone: No, we’re starting strangely. Buffy was mentioned. I think it’s called the buffiness curse.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Ah.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, that’s why I am the atypical token Mormon Bishop…. Have to keep up appearances, dontcha know!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: eh? You’re a Mormon Bishop???<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Don’t tell E!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: Yeah!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Then Randy arrived bringing randiness and Kultsi arrived bringing Finnish blondes …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Seems to me that the awareness of self-awareness is not something you (or at least I) can easily demarcate.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Wow Bad night for me. Thank God I’m getting DSL next week.<\/p>\n AGplusone: I’ve got it all so far …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: I can say eg. 35 years ago I was not sentient.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Anyone want to break early. It’s getting really dark out here. Cloudes upliften …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: and ca. 32years ago I was.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: It’s not gettin’ light out there — why break?<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Kultsi — will it get light for you in the next 3 months?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Well, it’s this storm front a-comin’ in … mit der flashers und loud bangs …<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Actually, I need to get back to grading finals. Don’t want to be doing this all weekend.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: sure — at least outside, don’t know about me.<\/p>\n AGplusone: sumbuddy named Thor, I tink …<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Some drunk dwarf viking, no doubt.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yeah, you bettcha!<\/p>\n KultsiKN: In der Winter? Donner und whatever.!<\/p>\n AGplusone: ‘tousands and tousands’ of dem ….<\/p>\n AGplusone: I marry ’em all. He must have smiled when he wrote that one.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Blitzen!!! That’s it!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Pancer, dancer-<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: PRancer, dancer-<\/p>\n AGplusone: New generation Kultsi. The reindeer are named Blair, and Kyle, and Marquis …<\/p>\n AGplusone: Alt Donner und Blitzen are retired … sent to the reindeer glue factory probably.<\/p>\n KultsiKN: The one ala C Bohn?<\/p>\n AGplusone: Corporate downsizing, you see.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Did Bohn write it?<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Rufo the Bad Programmer.<\/p>\n AGplusone: LOL<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Rudolph, the bad Programmer…. had a flaky code…<\/p>\n AGplusone: And if you ever read it \/\/<\/p>\n Randyjj55: David, are you going to send a copy of your log to David Wright? He’s been bounced a couple of times. I have one since I arrived, but don’t know what came before then.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: and if you ever saw it, you might even say it blowed…<\/p>\n AGplusone: You would say it (trying to rhyme memory loss in it somehow) Bloat<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Like AG said, he’s got it all.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: I’ve got it from the beginning, but have several gaps.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Yes.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Let me copy now, and mail it.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Okay.<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Thanks.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Well, gentlemen, I must be going. Need to change the tape in my VCR – recording “Taken” today and tomorrow, from the Sci-Fi channel since I haven’t had time to watch it over the past few weeks. Do sveydanya!<\/p>\n AGplusone: Sent. We did decide to go with Btwn Planets on Jan 9 I think. Plus, we’ll go with something about Magic Inc or Waldo or Hoag to take a break after that. Still cooking it up.<\/p>\n Randyjj55: I think the idea of incorporating the Anderson stories is a good one. They make a nice complement.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Lead off is already up on Btwn Planets …<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Be seein’ ya.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Like to see if we can track down Turtledove.<\/p>\n AGplusone: See ya, Simon<\/p>\n AGplusone: I always wanted to read that one of his too<\/p>\n Randyjj55: Two turtledoves? And a partridge in a pear tree!<\/p>\n AGplusone: After the first … be a tired turtledove<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: In the multiverse, there are an infinite number of Turtledoves O:-)<\/p>\n KultsiKN: LOL! Cya, Randy!<\/p>\n aggirlj has entered the room.<\/p>\n aggirlj: Hi guys.<\/p>\n AGplusone: see ya, K, David, Ms. Pixel, Hi, Jane we just breaking up the circus.<\/p>\n aggirlj: Oh, well, sorry abouth that. Talk to you later.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: (Was sayin’ night to Randy!)<\/p>\n KultsiKN: HI, AG minus some and plus some others!<\/p>\n aggirlj has left the room.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Hi aggirlj!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Was it something I said?<\/p>\n Randyjj55: CYA and CYA. Both are important things to do.<\/p>\n AGplusone: No, she understood me to tell her we were just finishing.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Ah.<\/p>\n pixelmeow: so there are a few of us still here…<\/p>\n KultsiKN: David, you’re a bully!<\/p>\n pixelmeow: I had a neighbor come in and we were talking…<\/p>\n pixelmeow: sorry…<\/p>\n AGplusone: I’m her big brother …. goes without saying.<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: Looks like the chat is coming to an end…<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: so…<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Just because I like your sis, it’s no reason to act like that!<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx: night all!<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Guten Nacht<\/p>\n SimonMycroftxxx has left the room.<\/p>\n AGplusone: Guten Nacht from Neu Amsterdamn, Heer Wrigt<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Da!<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: Good night Chet<\/p>\n KultsiKN: Nieuw Amsterdam? Ya moved?<\/p>\n DavidWrightSr: An old joke.<\/p>\n AGplusone: alternate universe. 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